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ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by The_Angry_Goat » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:29 pm

A place for discussion, complaints, whatever. expect the signup page in the next few weeks, it'll start some time early spring (after CBC, preferably with a tournament in-between). with that being said here's the notably different things I want to do


Using CBC/Standard ruleset with the following modifications

repeated hits damage - weapon: armor at 0 taking 8(?) hits to break through (and 2 more hits per weapon under armor) (still have shock damage)

Crushers deal damage like saws (remove all bonuses they currently get), all crushers can be multi-speed for free if they want to

Thwack damage is (speed+tra)/2

Hammers dont deal any bonus damage, do deal +1 shock

No more than 2 different statlines in alt configs. if you do not benefit from weapon armor in one config, you don't in any

revert shell buff (RIP), revert chainsaw nerf specifically because I want to see noah enter a chainsaw bot

keep the +5 to traction, speed+tra cannot exceed 18 for melties from ROBOT3 if that isnt in the CBC ruleset

Featherweight/Lightweight/Featherweight Sportsman

oh yeah also it's gonna be double elimination.

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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by The Monsterworks » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:35 pm

1) I'm up for this.
2) Yep.
3) HUGE YES.
4) Welp, not entering a hammer.
5) Is this 2 statlines in total or main config and then two alts? I don't mind the weapon armour rule, though.
6) Yes, NO - chainsaws are dumb and they don't work. I also lowkey have a big exploit I could use here.
7) Yes. I support this. Need to check if I've formally included it.
8) Yuck. So much for my lineup.
9) In theory, could work. Alternate between winners and losers' brackets, I'd say.
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by V900 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:38 pm

The_Angry_Goat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:29 pm
revert chainsaw nerf specifically because I want to see noah enter a chainsaw bot
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The Monsterworks wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:35 pm
6) NO - chainsaws are dumb and they don't work.
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by The_Angry_Goat » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:56 pm

The Monsterworks wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:35 pm
1) I'm up for this.
2) Yep.
3) HUGE YES.
4) Welp, not entering a hammer.
5) Is this 2 statlines in total or main config and then two alts? I don't mind the weapon armour rule, though.
6) Yes, NO - chainsaws are dumb and they don't work. I also lowkey have a big exploit I could use here.
7) Yes. I support this. Need to check if I've formally included it.
8) Yuck. So much for my lineup.
9) In theory, could work. Alternate between winners and losers' brackets, I'd say.
5) 2, straight up. I know it hits multi-tool bots kinda hard, but I'm getting annoyed at the bots with 4 statlines that are almost entirely the same with a single number changed, and also don't mind having a tournament where archetypical restraints come up a bit more than they have in the past. debating whether or not it'll apply to mobile armor bonuses.

6) if you enter an exploitbot I won't let it compete, I am still the TO :V

9) that's the plan, gives us a week to get stuff done. also going to be being somewhat more strict with the writing deadline - there will be a consequence if you don't communicate about being unable to write (at least making sure I know by like, the middle of the week so it can get re-assigned, ya know?). in return writers will get to be in a priority queue that puts them ahead of any non-writer. which feels really grossly capitalist of me tbh :V

UPDATE TO REPEATED HITS DAMAGE:

currently weapon=armor is 12 hits, 2 more per armor below, which allows for a much cleaner

damage: 0>1>2>3>4>5>6
hits: 12>10>8>6>4>2>1

setup

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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by Trihunter » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:25 am

The_Angry_Goat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:29 pm
Sportsman
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by hide » Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:35 am

mfw Gabe runs a Sportsman major yet complains about bricks all the time

Otherwise this is fine. Crushers are getting buffed, which is cool
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by Trihunter » Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:50 am

Personally mildly iffy on crushers following saw rules, though I'd be down to give it a shot.
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by Tcrrr » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:04 am

I'm game for all these rules, cuz at the end of the day I'll still not know what I'm doing lol
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by The_Angry_Goat » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:04 am

hide wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:35 am
mfw Gabe runs a Sportsman major yet complains about bricks all the time
?? I am the brickman

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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by attackfrog » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:11 pm

  1. Seems like a more realistic system if tuned properly, I like
  2. Probably makes sense given that crushers crush slowly, idk about balance
  3. Torque is kind of the problem stat, yeah. It would be nice to have thwacks be at least stat-viable
  4. Bonk
  5. I like: reduces shenanigans
  6. RIP shells, lol chainsaws
  7. shrug
  8. Seems like a Gabe thing to do
  9. Sure I guess
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by Sylandrophol » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:27 am

uh oh stinky

yeah im game for robot4 lmao
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by patrickrowberry » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:17 pm

i can compete hopefully

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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by Sylandrophol » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:46 pm



so we gettin a discord to discuss this shit in or
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by Trihunter » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:06 pm

Well, we've never had individual tourney discords before, outside of writer-only ones.
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Re: ROBOT4 Discussion

Post by The_Angry_Goat » Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:02 pm

rules updates:

weapons below 5 power will not benefit from repeated hits.

Following clarification made on Sportsman wedge rules: All wedges must be on an active weapon or directly helping the functionality of an active weapon. provided you're doing something silly or creative this rule will be pretty lenient. if you try to powerbuild, expect this rule to be enforced to the letter.

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