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CBC 2 Format: Rules

Post by The Monsterworks » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:45 am

Recently, in attempts to balance the meta game and account for new technologies and design philosophies, a number of tournaments hosted on ARC have experimented with rule changes. This poll includes a list of modifications to the basic, standard ARC rule set. If you are in favour of including a modification, please vote for it. You can vote for as many as you like.

If you feel strongly against a specific rule change, please make your case in this thread.
Mastodon... Extinction (HW)
Osiris... Armageddon! (MW)
Elrathia... ROBOTS (LW)
Magnolia Pico... Ruination 4 (MW)
RipTide... ROBOT2 (FW)
Black Diamond... Cherry Bomb Classic 3 (HW)
MADSCIENCE... ROBOTS 3 (LW)
Abyss... ROBOTS 3 (MW)


The Monsterworks: 214-57 (.790) ...Probably up to no good.
Cherry Bomb Classic IV: 25-4
Finishing Move: 6-2
Magnolia Pico: 6-1
Magnolia Grande: 6-1
Glacier III: 7-0
ROBOTS 3: 21-6
Sixpounder: 3-4
MADSCIENCE: 9-1 Champion!
Abyss: 9-1 Champion!

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Post by playzooki » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:06 am

if you had a much less lenient version of the rb2 rp rules i would probably enter. also can we not ban robots that have made the playoffs before because i'll eventually run out of robots to re-enter

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Post by The Monsterworks » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:16 am

Humblebrag ftw. Also yeah, I was considering just opening it up to all robots. That's what I'll probably do unless people are strongly against it.
Mastodon... Extinction (HW)
Osiris... Armageddon! (MW)
Elrathia... ROBOTS (LW)
Magnolia Pico... Ruination 4 (MW)
RipTide... ROBOT2 (FW)
Black Diamond... Cherry Bomb Classic 3 (HW)
MADSCIENCE... ROBOTS 3 (LW)
Abyss... ROBOTS 3 (MW)


The Monsterworks: 214-57 (.790) ...Probably up to no good.
Cherry Bomb Classic IV: 25-4
Finishing Move: 6-2
Magnolia Pico: 6-1
Magnolia Grande: 6-1
Glacier III: 7-0
ROBOTS 3: 21-6
Sixpounder: 3-4
MADSCIENCE: 9-1 Champion!
Abyss: 9-1 Champion!

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Post by playzooki » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:16 pm

<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>The Monsterworks</dt><dd>Mar 13 2017, 11:16 AM</dd></dl><div>Humblebrag ftw. Also yeah, I was considering just opening it up to all robots. That's what I'll probably do unless people are strongly against it.[/quote]that wasn't even supposed to be a humblebrag it was more about how lazy i am - if i keep entering the same robot it'll surely make the playoffs at some point, surely&#33; :v:

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Post by Archangel » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:18 pm

I actually have the same problem with my Lightweights, since literally every one I've entered has made playoffs so far :V
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Post by GF93 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:21 pm

<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>playzooki</dt><dd>Mar 13 2017, 11:06 AM</dd></dl><div>also can we not ban robots that have made the playoffs before because i'll eventually run out of robots to re-enter[/quote]Well, look on the bright side. Might be a good opportunity for that Chuckle Brothers-themed bot you were planning. :P
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Post by playzooki » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:19 pm

<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>GF93</dt><dd>Mar 13 2017, 04:21 PM</dd></dl><div><blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>playzooki</dt><dd>Mar 13 2017, 11:06 AM</dd></dl><div>also can we not ban robots that have made the playoffs before because i'll eventually run out of robots to re-enter[/quote]Well, look on the bright side. Might be a good opportunity for that Chuckle Brothers-themed bot you were planning. :P[/quote]I'm fairly sure it was you who said the chuckle brothers could design a better robot than me :P

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Post by Wolf51-50 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:29 pm

Well, all my HWs (except Coup De Grace it seems) have died a terrible death. Uhh....Book of Carnage 2 it is I guess :v:
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Alpha Robotics - Embrace the carnage!

Recent Tournaments:

ROBOT2
FW: Apocalyptic Peacekeeper (2-3)
LW: Backstab 3 (3-3) [Lifetime 11-8]
MW: Outrage 2 (4-1) [Lifetime 6-3]
HW: Tulta Munille (3-2)

Ruination: The Upheavel
LW: White Lightning (1-6) [Lifetime 4-8]
MW: Diablo Genesis (5-3) [Lifetime 10-5]
HW: Coup de Grâce (2-5) [Lifetime 13-9]
SHW: Fenrir (6-2) [Lifetime 7-3]

Reckoning: The Revival
MW: Vovoka (4-1) [Lifetime 10-3]

tune in next time on ARC when I one-up Boto by posting my vast collection of Thomas The Tank Engine hentai on the Discord :V -HFL

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Post by Madman » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:39 am

Half of my votes were self-interest.

I even voted for your dumb saw rule, just so you can enter Osiris and I can roflstomp it.
Tartarus Robotics Group: Infinitely wise and merciful since 2016
(don't ask about before that)

Black Dog ||| Hellhound V ||| Blood Eagle ||| Santangelo ||| Hellhound VII ||| Hoarfrost

CBC4: 26-5
Featherweight: Black Dog III (6-2)
Lightweight: Blood Eagle (7-1)
Middleweight: Hoarfrost (9-0) CHAMPION!
Heavyweight: Santangelo (5-2)
Vexed!
Lightweight: Thundercaller (1-0)
Current Roster: 183-40 (.821)
Black Dog (ROBOTS - MW*, ROBOTS3 - FW, CBC4 - FW): 26-5
Blood Eagle (CBC3 - LW*, CBC4 - LW): 15-2
Detroit Iron (ICEcrown - SHW): 6-2
Hellcat (Thunder Underground - MW): 2-0
Hellhound (R: Extinction - HW, Pressure Drop - HW, RB2 - HW, ROBOTS - HW, New Blood - HW*, ROBOTS 3 - HW*, Thunder Underground - HW): 46-11
Hoarfrost (RB2 - MW, Armageddon! - MW, Ruination 4 - LW, Thunder Underground - LW, CBC4 - MW*): 23-5
Krakatoa (Robo-Con - LW, Ruination 4 - SHW, Thunder Underground - LW): 11-2
Meanstreak (RB2 - LW, Ruination 4 - HW): 10-3
Santangelo (CBC3 - SHW*, CBC4 - HW): 13-3
Sundancer (Ruination 4 - MW, R: Revival - MW, REDDIT - HW, R: Evolution - FW): 21-4
Talons Out (ROBOTS - FW): 10-3
Thundercaller (Vexed!): 1-0
Yet to Fight
Hadean, Intimidator, Kurosaki-kun, Midnight Sun, Neon Rampage
Retired
Eye of Newt, Morality, Savage, Tiger, Vicious, Wild Child
ARC Hall of Fame
Hellhound - #1
Black Dog - #2
Blood Eagle - #11
Sundancer - #24
Hoarfrost - #49

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Post by Madman » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:17 am

It looks like the MonkeyWrench multibot rules are gonna be used. I'm calling bullshit. Look at multibots irl. They have never done fuck (watch one of you pull out some obscure example that you think invalidates my entire argument). Maybe they sound cool in theory and they're a change from the usual, so it's tempting to make them, but in practice, they suck balls. Like actually.

I'm not saying we have to follow real life slavishly, so don't get your panties all up in a knot, but if weapons or types aren't viable irl, like flamethrowers and crushers, we're usually pretty good with making ARC reflect that.
Tartarus Robotics Group: Infinitely wise and merciful since 2016
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Black Dog ||| Hellhound V ||| Blood Eagle ||| Santangelo ||| Hellhound VII ||| Hoarfrost

CBC4: 26-5
Featherweight: Black Dog III (6-2)
Lightweight: Blood Eagle (7-1)
Middleweight: Hoarfrost (9-0) CHAMPION!
Heavyweight: Santangelo (5-2)
Vexed!
Lightweight: Thundercaller (1-0)
Current Roster: 183-40 (.821)
Black Dog (ROBOTS - MW*, ROBOTS3 - FW, CBC4 - FW): 26-5
Blood Eagle (CBC3 - LW*, CBC4 - LW): 15-2
Detroit Iron (ICEcrown - SHW): 6-2
Hellcat (Thunder Underground - MW): 2-0
Hellhound (R: Extinction - HW, Pressure Drop - HW, RB2 - HW, ROBOTS - HW, New Blood - HW*, ROBOTS 3 - HW*, Thunder Underground - HW): 46-11
Hoarfrost (RB2 - MW, Armageddon! - MW, Ruination 4 - LW, Thunder Underground - LW, CBC4 - MW*): 23-5
Krakatoa (Robo-Con - LW, Ruination 4 - SHW, Thunder Underground - LW): 11-2
Meanstreak (RB2 - LW, Ruination 4 - HW): 10-3
Santangelo (CBC3 - SHW*, CBC4 - HW): 13-3
Sundancer (Ruination 4 - MW, R: Revival - MW, REDDIT - HW, R: Evolution - FW): 21-4
Talons Out (ROBOTS - FW): 10-3
Thundercaller (Vexed!): 1-0
Yet to Fight
Hadean, Intimidator, Kurosaki-kun, Midnight Sun, Neon Rampage
Retired
Eye of Newt, Morality, Savage, Tiger, Vicious, Wild Child
ARC Hall of Fame
Hellhound - #1
Black Dog - #2
Blood Eagle - #11
Sundancer - #24
Hoarfrost - #49

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Post by Wolf51-50 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:21 pm

They might be weak irl, but they're even weaker without the new rules imo. It's not like it's hurting anyone :P

I agree with you in some ways, and I don't in others
Alpha Robotics - Embrace the carnage!

Recent Tournaments:

ROBOT2
FW: Apocalyptic Peacekeeper (2-3)
LW: Backstab 3 (3-3) [Lifetime 11-8]
MW: Outrage 2 (4-1) [Lifetime 6-3]
HW: Tulta Munille (3-2)

Ruination: The Upheavel
LW: White Lightning (1-6) [Lifetime 4-8]
MW: Diablo Genesis (5-3) [Lifetime 10-5]
HW: Coup de Grâce (2-5) [Lifetime 13-9]
SHW: Fenrir (6-2) [Lifetime 7-3]

Reckoning: The Revival
MW: Vovoka (4-1) [Lifetime 10-3]

tune in next time on ARC when I one-up Boto by posting my vast collection of Thomas The Tank Engine hentai on the Discord :V -HFL

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Post by Archangel » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:53 pm

<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>Wolf51-50</dt><dd>Mar 26 2017, 03:21 PM</dd></dl><div>They might be weak irl, but they're even weaker without the new rules imo. It's not like it's hurting anyone :P

I agree with you in some ways, and I don't in others[/quote]congrats on managing to add literally nothing to the conversation with your ambivalence :v:
‽ ROBOTICS
CHAMPIONS: Lightweight//Ruination 4//Nick's Fuzzy Rules -- -- Hobbyweight//Bot-o-Rama//Buzzkill

Nooo it's just scrambled
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Post by Wolf51-50 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:22 pm

<blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>The_Angry_Goat</dt><dd>Mar 26 2017, 03:53 PM</dd></dl><div><blockquote class='quote_blockquote'><dl><dt>Wolf51-50</dt><dd>Mar 26 2017, 03:21 PM</dd></dl><div>They might be weak irl, but they're even weaker without the new rules imo. It's not like it's hurting anyone :P

I agree with you in some ways, and I don't in others[/quote]congrats on managing to add literally nothing to the conversation with your ambivalence :v:[/quote]How did I know that the moment I said my two bits about keeping the rules the way the are, but also stating that I understand where Laz is coming from, I'd have an angry goat running up my back? :v:
Alpha Robotics - Embrace the carnage!

Recent Tournaments:

ROBOT2
FW: Apocalyptic Peacekeeper (2-3)
LW: Backstab 3 (3-3) [Lifetime 11-8]
MW: Outrage 2 (4-1) [Lifetime 6-3]
HW: Tulta Munille (3-2)

Ruination: The Upheavel
LW: White Lightning (1-6) [Lifetime 4-8]
MW: Diablo Genesis (5-3) [Lifetime 10-5]
HW: Coup de Grâce (2-5) [Lifetime 13-9]
SHW: Fenrir (6-2) [Lifetime 7-3]

Reckoning: The Revival
MW: Vovoka (4-1) [Lifetime 10-3]

tune in next time on ARC when I one-up Boto by posting my vast collection of Thomas The Tank Engine hentai on the Discord :V -HFL

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Post by Madman » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:04 pm

Okay, so does anyone else see my point? To reiterate, it's basically that the MonkeyWrench rules make clusters viable, as in pretty much a guaranteed playoff spot if you do them right. That doesn't reflect real life robotic combat at all, where they consistently fail to make any noise whatsoever. The way that they were before was more realistic. As for who's being hurt by this, I'd say that everybody who enters what would normally be a reasonable, winning design.
Tartarus Robotics Group: Infinitely wise and merciful since 2016
(don't ask about before that)

Black Dog ||| Hellhound V ||| Blood Eagle ||| Santangelo ||| Hellhound VII ||| Hoarfrost

CBC4: 26-5
Featherweight: Black Dog III (6-2)
Lightweight: Blood Eagle (7-1)
Middleweight: Hoarfrost (9-0) CHAMPION!
Heavyweight: Santangelo (5-2)
Vexed!
Lightweight: Thundercaller (1-0)
Current Roster: 183-40 (.821)
Black Dog (ROBOTS - MW*, ROBOTS3 - FW, CBC4 - FW): 26-5
Blood Eagle (CBC3 - LW*, CBC4 - LW): 15-2
Detroit Iron (ICEcrown - SHW): 6-2
Hellcat (Thunder Underground - MW): 2-0
Hellhound (R: Extinction - HW, Pressure Drop - HW, RB2 - HW, ROBOTS - HW, New Blood - HW*, ROBOTS 3 - HW*, Thunder Underground - HW): 46-11
Hoarfrost (RB2 - MW, Armageddon! - MW, Ruination 4 - LW, Thunder Underground - LW, CBC4 - MW*): 23-5
Krakatoa (Robo-Con - LW, Ruination 4 - SHW, Thunder Underground - LW): 11-2
Meanstreak (RB2 - LW, Ruination 4 - HW): 10-3
Santangelo (CBC3 - SHW*, CBC4 - HW): 13-3
Sundancer (Ruination 4 - MW, R: Revival - MW, REDDIT - HW, R: Evolution - FW): 21-4
Talons Out (ROBOTS - FW): 10-3
Thundercaller (Vexed!): 1-0
Yet to Fight
Hadean, Intimidator, Kurosaki-kun, Midnight Sun, Neon Rampage
Retired
Eye of Newt, Morality, Savage, Tiger, Vicious, Wild Child
ARC Hall of Fame
Hellhound - #1
Black Dog - #2
Blood Eagle - #11
Sundancer - #24
Hoarfrost - #49

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